28th February 2010
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Nigel Kerner recently gave an interview with Henrik Palmgren on Red Ice Radio
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For those who are interested in Nigel’s ideas the questions and answers below are the notes he wrote in answer to the incisive and perceptive questions he was sent before the interview. During the interview many other issues came up and much of the information contained in these notes was not mentioned. For that reason we are publishing the notes on the website as we feel these answers cover most of the key issues presented in Nigel’s books. Equally, Nigel has discussed ideas during the interview that are not contained in these notes and for those who are interested we highly recommend you download the interview following this link:
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Q. Can you tell us a little bit about your first book “The Song of the Greys” and your main thesis that the Greys are sophisticated biological robots created by an extraterrestrial civilization.
• Abductees have commented on the blank, emotionless faces of the Greys as they carry out painful procedures on their human subjects. As they carry out their experimental procedures many of which are centred on the reproductive system, the impression is that we are laboratory rats to them.
• If they are indeed the robotic entities I believe them to be this would make sense because it is impossible to programme compassion and sympathy into a machine. These qualities are the hallmark of natural living being whose naturalness comes from a source that is beyond this physical universe.
• So it is crucially important that we do not try to understand the Grey aliens in anthropomorphic terms. They seem, from all accounts to be more like programmed machines with no facility for human emotions such as cruelty.
• However, it is beyond argument that all the procedures carried out by the Greys involve an element of force, from the point of kidnap onwards. Investigative medical procedures that are often extremely painful are conducted with the abductees held in a state of paralysis. The same is true of sexual practices that are performed on the abductees.
This has convinced me that the alien phenomenon in the form it has been reported by first hand witnesses, can only be negative and predatory when seen in terms of the life interests of our human species. If they are our Messiahs, our redeemers for the future, one has to ask the question: What kind of promised land are they leading us to?
To say that the Greys are deliberately cruel or sadistic towards us would imply that they are capable of some kind of moral or ethical codex, but if they are, as I believe them to be, programmed bio-mechanical machines, they would be incapable of any psycho-emotional sense. And this, from the vast majority of witness reports, seems to be patently so.
Q. What was the “job” of the greys?
• The behaviour of the Greys suggests the complete lack of a conscience as we know such a thing to be. They would have to be simply following pre-set instructions that have been programmed into them, instructions within a dead-legged programme to preserve and look after the interests of both themselves and those who created them, at any cost in this universe.
• I believe the Greys are similar to the probes we send out to planets that we ourselves cannot visit to gather information remotely. There are two different scenarios by which this might have happened.
(i) Civilisations at other locations in the universe, similar to ours but with hugely advanced technologies may have created them.
(ii) They may have been sent out in the ancient past as gophers for a different type of being altogether. They may, in other words, have been part of a mechanism to explore and understand the very nature of existence in a physical universe.
I believe that both of these scenarios may well be true.
• It is my thesis that the Greys form the final lens of a telescope of view into the myriad states of a physical universe. The account of how and why this lens was created has taken me two books to properly explain but suffice to say it is my considered opinion that the only way we can explain the origin of the Greys is to first explain our own origins. They are part of that story. So that story has to come first.
• As those who have read my first book will know, it is my contention that our existence in an imperfect physical universe is not the result of a creator God placing us in a state of imperfection and watching the fun. It is instead an expression of the perfect freedom that is implicate in the state of perfection that I call the Godverse, to know and experience all things, including the freedom to know what it is like to no longer be perfectly free.
• We are thus a product of our own free choices. Thus it is not the case that God will not intervene it is simply that the Godverse cannot intervene. The infinitely present ‘light’ of the Godverse can only be expressed into the universe to the extent that we allow it, we have to open the windows. Our will to do this is paramount. Once we have done so we can embody that light and act as agents of the Godverse. But the Godverse itself is an implicate state that cannot, by definition, intervene of itself.
• The expression of the Godverse into the Universe of parts was a natural expression of the all-encompassing reach for knowledge implicit in Godhead. Once that expression was made the freedom of choice to stay in the universe or return to the Godverse was implicit and most chose to return, to be exact I believe that 95-96% returned, a figure which is exactly proportional to the amount of ‘missing’ or ‘dark’ matter and energy in the physical universe and could I believe account for it but that’s another matter!
• For now let’s use an analogy and say that when the tide goes out a line of foam is left on the beach due to the irregular surface of the sand as the incoming tide hits it. The returning tide is the return of being to the state of the Godverse. The foam is the residue that was caught by the irregular chaotic nature of a physical universe.
• The residue that was caught I believe sought mechanisms to preserve itself from further capture. Remote viewing mechanisms were sought to follow that imperative to view and know a physical universe without getting caught in it. These were made at every staging post of force in the universe: From remote viewing mechanisms, or lenses of light, to biological lenses, to organic/inorganic biological roboids like the Greys.
Q. What do you think happened to the extraterrestrial civilization that created them?
• I believe most of the original God-like beings I refer to in my books as Prime Beings returned to the state of perfection from which they came. Some however were caught in the physical universe and these are our ancestors and the ancestors of beings like us universe-wide.
• Evolutionary theory makes little sense to me. Our universe is subject to the second law of thermodynamics that breaks all things up into greater and greater states of chaos with time. The ordered complexities of living systems could never have arisen from within this system.
• I believe we are devolving not evolving, devolving from a superior state to an inferior one. This is true for all living species. We did not evolve up to humans from the sea worm. We devolved and continue to devolve to our own variety of sea worm. The sea worms now in existence are the ends of other lines of superior beings and species that have come down from inaugural genotypes over billions of years.
• Sir Fred Hoyle has pointed out that the odds are outlandish even for the origins of life in the first place. The chance of the vital two thousand enzymes being formed in exactly the correct way, which they must be or else complex living organisms simply could not operate, is “about the same as the chance of throwing an uninterrupted sequence of 50,000 sixes with unbiased dice!”
• Scientists studying mutational phenomena have discovered that there is a blueprint, “an ancestral body plan” that guides development from one species form to another. Instead of inventing a new set of body plan genes for each new type of animal, it seems that natural selection has simply tinkered with an old one, a set known as Hox genes. If all organisms that now exist had from their very inception into the evolutionary process a blue-print of how they should evolve, then where did that blueprint come from in the first place? How did the first multi-cellular animals evolving some 700 million years ago contain the basic template of information that only needed to be shuffled around in order to form a human being? All the myriad changing environmental factors and chance mutations—which allowed survival within changed environments and thus evolution through the survival of the fittest—had not yet occurred at that point. So where did the most basic of living organisms, or indeed the chemical soup that produced them in the first place, get this genetic blueprint?
Q. Are the Greys “envious” of our Souls/spirits?
• Perhaps envy would be the wrong word as it implies a human emotion of which the Greys would not be capable. It would be more accurate to say that they are rather like kids who want to have what the grownups have because it intrigues them but they don’t really understand what it is. Except in the case of the Greys they are literally incapable of understanding what it is because they are biological machines without the ability to conceive of anything non-physical such as a soul.
Q. Hybrid program – is their solution to their problem to interbreed with humanity?
• It is not really interbreeding, that would be a misleading word. Interbreeding would imply the mixing together of their DNA and ours to make hybrid offspring.
It is my understanding that the Greys do not have their own DNA. DNA is a product of naturally derived being and they are artificially derived bio-machines.
• In our current state we are restricted by the limits of existence within a physical body. We cannot instantly be where we want to be for example or achieve instantly anything we wish for. But the first state of being in a physical universe had complete control of the atomic state.
Just as Christ could turn water into wine, heal the sick and raise the dead, such first being could through the power of intention create remote probing devices to explore the physical state without becoming caught in it. The Greys were contrived as part of a series of logical steps to fit in with a changed paradigm from a non- physical universe to a physical one. Suffice to say it is to do with two states of being, a natural one and an artificial one that came out of it. And this is true all over the universe at the same time.
• The Grey’s biological component is, I believe, more accurately compared to the contents of vials and sample jars in a bio-chemist’s laboratory containing DNA samples. They are like mobile laboratories using their artificial intelligence to study and understand the potentials for life to survive in a hostile physical universe on behalf of their creators.
• The Greys were programmed with the original state of their creators and would seek to match that as much as possible in a physical format. Despite the fact that their original creators are likely to be no longer around, as they are no more than programmed machines they are relentlessly looking to execute their programme to this day to provide the best most efficient formula for physical survival. Now you might think that a machine has more endurance than a man in entire terms. That would be true if the paradigm of reincarnation did not exist. However that is another story. The problem with artificial intelligence is that it doesn’t always have the checks and balances to temper and shape its programme. That is why they are seeking our genetic information, our DNA.
• This is the hybridisation process reported by abductees. The hybrids seen on spaceships are often reported as sickly looking and weak. I believe this is because they are missing a vital ingredient – A SOUL LINE OF CONNECTION TO THE NON-PHYSICAL UNIVERSE, THE GODVERSE. It is this that crucially gives what we call the spark of life, the only antidote to the second law of thermodynamics through its implicit pull towards greater states of order and coherence provided by the implicit presence of the Godverse in the universe. New DNA from soul connected being like us can refresh a genetic prospectus that they might be trying to assemble, but it too will decay quickly without constant renewal from its original soul connected host.
• So the intelligent thing to do would be to move the laboratory developing the DNA into live action soul connected being. To culture the mechanism for physical life that they have been programmed to create from within the bodies of humanity, to turn us, in other words, into an equivalent that matches their programme and thus achieve, in their terms at least, an ongoing existence for this programme.
Q. What are the effects of this interbreeding or genetic tampering? (negative qualities)
Before I answer that question I have to make it clear that I believe our bodies including our specific genetic structure form biological aerials for the reception of that which is not physical or atomic. They are receivers for that non physical quantum which I call THOUGHT. This quantum, the ability to be aware and have free will to choose options has its origins in the non-physical Godverse. I believe incidentally that this comes through the very space between our atoms but that’s a long story and I’m afraid again I’ll have to refer people to the book to explain that one.
• The more they try to incorporate their programmes into us the more they interrupt our charge-ship of our own biological aerials for reception of our own soul line of connection, our own specific patterns of thought. I don’t for a moment want to suggest that all we think and do is controlled by the Greys we have free will and compunction that can cancel anything. We are our own keeper and I would like to suggest that this implies we are our brother’s keeper too. In fact the more we are this the more powerful we are in defeating and beating the Greys. They will fight their war on their behest and we must fight our war on our behest recognising the Greys for what they might be. And those that hide the Greys from us are taking this away from us that is their heinous crime, the most enormous crime against humanity.
• 96% of our DNA is non-coding for proteins, this so-called ‘junk DNA’ is I believe, a fossil, a remnant, of prior states of being. We are now unable to actuate most of our enormous potential as a species for two main reasons. First, we have naturally devolved as a result of the entropic momentums of a physical universe and second, that devolution has been accelerated by genetic interception from an alien species. Those sections of DNA that are no longer available to us reflect the extent to which we are restricted and unable to freely choose options. These reflect, in other words, the extent to which we are out of touch with our biological body aerial. ‘Junk DNA’ is thus an expression of blocked communication pathways between the individual soul and his or her biological genome. Any blocked pathways that are shut off to signals from the Godverse are consequently open to signals of the universe. As such they present fair game for the Greys to work on. The vast sections of DNA that consist of repeat codes, LINEs, Alus, trinucleotide repeats, are all, I believe a result of Grey genetic manipulation of the huge reservoir of dormant areas of the genome. The clue is the fact that these are repeat codes, highly suggestive therefore of CLONING procedures.
• Negative qualities can arise because some individuals are no longer in touch with their souls so to speak. The signals of this material world take over more. In addition I also believe specific psycho-motivational vectors are enhanced deliberately by the Greys to protect the integrity of their experimental groups. Ones they are working on to provide their ideal DNA source. With their technology they can literally put thoughts into our minds if we are susceptible, perhaps through the implants that they reportedly use. A state of isolated resolve for instance like tribalism and its more repugnant cousin Racism, for example might be enhanced in order to keep a particular experiment pure and unmixed with outside factors.
• For example, it is a well known fact that biological organisms that have a mixed heritage from different genetic types, (this is called heterozygosity) will be the fittest, healthiest organisms as they are far less likely to have two parents with the same genetic defects. This applies to human beings too. So children of mixed race couples are likely to be genetically superior to children of same race couples. In evolutionary terms therefore mixing race should be a biological drive. Could the reason that it is not be based to a certain extent on genetic interception to preserve the integrity of the experimental group? The concept of racial purity would then take on a whole new meaning.
So if the primary biological drive should be to mix races for the sake of the best survival of the species where could this urge for racial purity promoting an in-bred homo-zygotic population come from? Could it be that some of us have been programmed by alien experimenters to keep the experimental group separate in order to preserve the integrity of the experiment? Could racism be a sure sign of alien genetic interception, an interception for their purposes and in their interests and not ours as members of the family of man?
According to population geneticist Dr James Wilson, Royal Society University Research Fellow at Edinburgh University, the European population, tracing its origins to Cro-Magnon man, is intrinsically one of the most homozygotic in the world. This is because it stems from the most recent population to leave Africa and therefore has had less time to establish a diverse genetic base from its original hundred or so descendants. It goes without saying that the most heinous forms of racism originate from this group, the colonial legacy of the white man throughout the world speaks for itself. Let’s now take a look at the overwhelming evidence to suggest alien preoccupation with the Euro-Caucasian genotype.
Professor David Jacobs writes that the evidence clearly suggests that the ‘Nordics’ seen in many abduction experiences are most probably adult hybrids of human/alien mating. If the product of Grey alien hybridisation with humanity is Nordic it raises questions as to why they are promoting a blonde, blue-eyed low melanin genotype.
It is my thesis that the Grey aliens have cultured this genotype of humanity as part of their experiment. I believe that racism and other forms of divisive sectarianism are promoted by the experimenters as a means of keeping the controlled group separate from other populations. I am not suggesting that this is their only experimental group. The evidence suggests that the alien phenomenon has cropped up in many diverse groups worldwide and throughout history. Rather I am proposing that Euro-Caucasians may well be the pinnacle of their attempts to hybridise humanity with themselves, as evidenced by the Nordic hybrids. Thus the white urge for racial ‘purity’ could be intrinsic to the hybridisation process. Indeed racism amongst other human populations may have the same origins in alien experimentation, albeit on a smaller scale.
I am not saying that this is the sole cause of racism, I am simply saying that racism is an evil that is enhanced and used by the Greys for their own reasons. In David Jacobs’ book “Threat” abductee Allison Reed was shown the alien plans for a “perfect future”:
“She was brought into a room with other abductees and shown on a large screen like device ‘a beautiful park scene with people having picnics and playing ball. Her extraordinary recollection is a profoundly detailed description of the alien’s plans for a perfect future.’ She is asked to distinguish hybrids from normal human beings amongst families in a park. She notes that in the park ‘they’re all white. Everybody’s Caucasian, there’s no Spanish, Black, Oriental’.”
She was taken by an alien escort to a “museum room” there she saw “artefacts on shelves along with strange life sized ‘holograms’ of several beings. Her alien escort explained what these figures represented and why the hybridization was undertaken:
“Each of the hologram figures had a ‘flaw’ of some sort. The first had alien features with distinctive black eyes and a thin body; it also had a distended stomach with boil like protuberances on it. The next hologram looked more human. He had blond hair and human-like eyes, but he had no genitals, and his skin was extremely pale, like that of a ‘borderline albino’. The final hologram was a grouping of smaller beings, about five feet tall. They were very white and Allison received the impression that they were mentally weak or something”.
Another female abductee describes how she was shown a hybrid baby and asked to hold it and hug it. Jacob asked her about the skin colour of the baby: “Does it have light skin or dark skin, within the Caucasian range?” Her answer is: “Fair. Quite fair. I think it is very fair, as a matter of fact. Almost like no ultra-violet light for this guy.”
All this, I believe has something to do with the properties of the pigment melanin.
A distinguished Professor of biology of the Galton Laboratory of University College London – Steve Jones outlines a biological fact that, in my opinion, may be a very plausible reason why the vast majority of abductees are white. He points out that although the number of melanocytes is the same in blacks and whites, “In black skin they are far more active and the melanin granules cluster around the nuclei of the cells in which they are found, suggesting that they play a vital part in protecting DNA from damage by ultraviolet light.” These “supranuclear caps” also known as “microparasols” prevent the use of ultraviolet light (a standard method) to alter gene orientation within the nuclear membrane.
Melanin, as a dark pigment, absorbs light. Nuclear DNA that is protected by the melanin granules that are clustered around it may therefore be safe from any alien-engendered effect brought about by light. Melanin has also been found to have a capacity to conduct electric fields. Encounters with alien beings or craft have taken place with by far the greatest frequency at locations where there are particularly high electromagnetic fields (power stations, military bases, etc.) High electromagnetic fields also seem to be disturbed by the alien craft, which often cause widespread power failures in the areas where they appear. The conducting properties of melanin would allow it to act like a Faraday cage, conducting electric fields away from the nucleus of the cell and thus preventing alien procedures from reaching the DNA in the nucleus.
Professor Jones makes the point that the colour change from dark skin to fair skin, said to have taken place when the migration out of Africa brought human beings to Europe, does not necessarily make sense when seen in terms of biological advantage. People say that this change was due to the fact that a fair (or, in other words, transparent) skin could absorb more of the meagre levels of ultraviolet light available in northern climes and this light is needed to help produce vitamin D, vital for the production of strong bones and teeth.
Jones says that “although the idea of rickets as the driving force behind the evolution of skin color is attractive, melanin was probably not lost because of changes in vitamin balance.” He points out that “rickets is a disease of civilization,” a disease that only became common as cities grew in the Middle Ages. Even blacks need only two hours a week of sunlight to stay healthy.”At first sight,” says Professor Jones, “evolution has got it wrong. If humans followed the rules that apply to other animals, who have been a lot longer on the real estate, Europeans ought to be black and Africans white,” simply because dark objects absorb more of the sun’s light and heat. However, it is also true that blacks are able to sweat more than whites and, says Jones, this “more than compensates for the effects of skin colour.” There are also the obvious advantages of a dark skin in the tropics, giving it the ability to protect the skin from the harmful effects of high levels of ultraviolet light. The advantages of a fair skin, no matter what the climate, are difficult to find in evolutionary terms. However, in terms of an aid to an easy and efficient alien interception of the human genome, the advantages are enormous.
The predecessors of modern Homo sapiens sapiens all had high amounts of melanin; lack of melanin is thus a relatively recent mutation. I speculate that the notorious mark of Cain mentioned in the Bible may well refer to a fair complexion. The spread of the recessive genes that produce low melanin levels may thus, in itself, mark a trail for tracking alien interception into the human genome, especially if Jones is right and fair skin offers no evolutionary advantage.
There is an account in the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch indicating that Noah may have been an albino with hair as white as snow, and skin as red as a rose. The unusual nature of this child was so marked that his father Lamech was “afraid” of him. This would lend a whole new meaning to the story of Noah and his “ark.”Could the ark, with its animals representing all the species on the planet, describe an alien-sponsored genetic experiment? Did they wish to clear the Earth of all previous experiments and preserve this one to work on in isolation? If so, did they cause the deluge that led to the Great Flood? Or, if the deluge was a natural phenomenon, perhaps caused by a comet or meteorite hitting the planet, did they choose to protect their ongoing project with the Earth’s species?
As the most recent group to leave Africa I have always wondered about the motivations that would have driven ancient man accustomed to the tropics to leave a hospitable climate for the inhospitable climate of the North.
Q. Do we all have alien DNA in us?
It depends on what you mean by alien DNA. There is the so called Panspermia theory that little bits of DNA were brought to this planet from outside its environs by viruses hitching rides on meteorites and then once here started to assemble life forms on its initial format. If this is so then we are all aliens. I do believe that the first bit might have happened. I cannot believe the second bit did. I do not believe that extrapolations through chance can create anything as substantial and sophisticated as living independent systems. I believe the opposite. I believe the most sophisticated eternal living systems get trapped in Universes in Big Bangs and then break down in line with the Second Law Of Thermodynamics into sub orders of living systems, horizontal platforms across so to speak. I believe the underlying momentum is Evolution through Devolution where the survival of the fittest (as Darwin defined it) happens concurrently with each prior stance devolving into the next logical stance propelled by the Second Law Of Thermodynamics. Evolution within devolution such that beneficial physical adaptations to the physical environment are made, is a product of the coherence of the soul quantum of living being making the best of a breaking down system. Thus I believe there was a Dinosaur man before there was a Tyranosaurus Rex and such things as birds came from that. I believe the ape comes from us. Not the other way round.
It is a strange thing that there is no fossil record for the African apes.I believe this is because prior hominid lines devolved into the primate orders Gorillas, Chimpanzees and Orangutans. It may be that Afroids dictated the Gorilla genus. Caucasoids the Chimpanzees and Mongoloids the Orang u Tang. I believe it is quite possible that Homo Sapiens Sapiens is slowly devolving into its own primate form at this moment in time. In other words the Universal momentum in Entropy is constantly making monkeys of men.
Now that is a huge hit against our vanity isn’t it. But then our human vanity has, I believe, been responsible for the biggest bag of evil and lies that has been created. Our collective insecurity in a Universe of diminishing returns with time is responsible for that. The great Christian teacher once said “Don’t ye Know ye are Gods” It is our connection to the Godverse through our soul fields that gives us the mighty arbitration factor we call ‘Conscience’. Unless you have a whole field of all knowledge as a singularity as a backdrop in all of us to set things against you will not have that inner prompt that conscience seems to be that seems to want to verify what is right and wrong. That innate thing that comes at us all the time.
To the question: Is alien DNA from such things as the Greys mixed in with us, in some actual genetic biological frame of reference, I believe unequivocally: NO. They are machines. They seek to merge their programmed quantum computer pseudo-psychologies with our format of thinking or think-ability. Somewhere within and without the hems or edges of atoms are patterns of force that define thought. This can be electrically and magnetically detected and defined. Their advanced technology might be able to piggy-back on any particular soul and hold to it, commanding the thinking process of any individual. This may be what people call spirit possession too.
Q. If so, is our problem genetic or psychological …maybe both? (One affects the other?)
I would say definitely both, no genetic interception is powerful enough to cancel our potential scope to choose options freely. As human beings we still have that potential freedom, it is the signature of our soul line of connection that we all have to the state of perfect freedom and perfect union of all parts that is commonly termed ‘God.’ I prefer to use the term ‘God-verse’ to describe that which is essentially a state of being not an individual entity. Our connection to the God-verse gives us the potential to counter the natural entropic drift of the universe to separate into parts with the opposite momentum to bind and unite. My thesis is that the simple binding momentums implied in ‘love thy neighbour as thyself’ can re-align genetically altered tracks back to the natural genetic prospectus.
I have to say that I have no religious sentiments of my own that originate from any established religious dogma. But I instinctively resist the societal cascade these days that hits us relentlessly from all sides of the Occidental world and indemnifies us with cold dead systemic based imperatives that imply no moral values and will in time dictate that man shall walk as machine.
If, as the great teachers, such as Christ and Buddha, claimed, the power of thought exercised in free-will has the power to redeem any catastrophe is it not the most simple and pristinely logical thing to set our scales of endeavour in thinking and doing things that unite and bind? These after all are the metaphors that have real power to ensure we hold on to our souls and thus our continued existence even past death, as a guarantee that no technology or machine engendered living status might compromise these ever.
Most near death experiences are beautiful journeys for those who have them. They involve passing through a tunnel towards a beautiful all embracing light full of love. However, there are exceptions to this in the form of negative NDEs in which certain individuals actually seem to face what sounds very much like an abduction experience on the point of physical death.
Dr. Francis Ceravolo, a family practitioner in Fort Lauderdale said that he was present when one of his patients coded five times in the ER. He had known the man for many years and he was a very calm, nice gentleman as nice as you would ever want to meet. After he was revived he told the doctor that he saw fire and little creatures, about four-and a-half feet tall, all around him. He described them as ‘bad-looking, terrible creatures’ and he saw them every time he died.
Another NDE experient reported after undergoing bypass surgery that she found herself in an enormous silver great place, rather like a hangar for airplanes, but going on for ever, and miles away there were some tiny figures. She said that it was disappointing that everyone talks of the lovely things when they died and were brought back. But her hangar was ghastly, a real Hell if there is such a thing.
Another NDE experienced after a serious car accident involved going through a bright shining tunnel toward dazzling light at the end. The experient was surprised that the tunnel was made of polished metal jointed and held together with something like rivets. She felt it should have been more ethereal somehow!!
These three NDEs seem to clearly describe some kind of alien abduction. The “bad looking and terrible four-and-a-half foot creatures,” in the first NDE are a typical description of the Grey aliens. In the second NDE, the enormous “silver hangar” with the “tiny creatures” inside sounds exactly like the inside of a spaceship. The “tunnel madeof polished metal jointed and held together with something like rivets” is nothing like the tunnel that is ordinarily described in NDEs and is more evocative of the entrance bay to a craft of some kind than the doorway to an insubstantial realm of light.
Q. What have all of this has to do with the blood line (genetic line) of Jesus?
There is significant evidence to suggest that Christ himself warned his apostles about the dangers of alien intervention.
In the “First Apocalypse of James” in the Nag Hammadi Codex Jesus explains to the Apostle James how to cope with the ‘Archons’ if he is faced with their representatives, as in fact Jesus himself was in the desert of Judea. He warns him that he will come across those who ‘take away souls by theft.’ What better way to describe abduction.
The recently discovered Gospel of Judas” seems to record an event which to all intents and purposes appears to describe Judas's own alien abduction:
"Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star. Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it".
Jesus talks to Judas about "the error of the stars" and tells him that his "star" has "led" him "astray". This prompts Judas to ask Jesus: "Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?"
Could the "stars" refer to actual locations out in space?
Could "the error of the stars" refer to the "error" of the entities that come from these locations?
Could Judas be asking Christ directly if his own biological line could be alien controlled, "ruled over" by a "host of angels of the stars": "Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?"
The Gospel of Philip there is an account of Christ’s description of how the 'authorities of the darkness' became 'enamoured' of the 'image of incorruptibility' that appeared to them in the 'waters'.
But because of their 'weakness' they were unable to 'Lay hold of those that possess a spirit; for they, (the authorities, or our 'Greys'), were from below, while it (the Spirit) was from above'. So the great enigma for the 'authorities' or the ‘Greys’ provided by living being with soul seems to be described here in this ancient text.
The Shroud of Turin is for me indisputable evidence that there was something absolutely remarkable about this man Jesus Christ.
Professor Christopher Ramsey of the University of Oxford and Head of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit which participated in the original 1988 carbon-14 dating of the Shroud and declared it a medieval forgery, admitted in May 2008, 20 years later that:
“There is a lot of other evidence that suggests to many that the shroud is older than the radiocarbon dates allow, and so further research is certainly needed. Only by doing this will people be able to arrive at a coherent history of the shroud which takes into account and explains all of the available scientific and historical information.”
If the Shroud of Turin was indeed created by the same transfiguration phenomenon that allowed Jesus to ‘glow brighter than the sun’ in front of James, Peter and John, then the remarkable features that this cloth has been found to possess could have a clear explanation.
In 2008 an Italian group of scientists researching this possibility presented their conclusions at the Ohio Shroud Conference:
“In summary, our results do not rule out the possibility that a short and intense burst of directional UV radiation may have played a role in the formation of the body image on the Turin Shroud however the total UV radiation power required to color a linen surface corresponding to a human body, of the order of is impressive, and cannot be delivered by any UV laser built to date. The enigma of the origin of the body image of the Turin shroud still is a challenge to our intelligence”
Could this burst of laser-like radiation have been produced by the conversion of the very atoms of Christ’s body into light? If this was indeed the case it is no surprise that there is no laser powerful enough to deliver such a blast of radiation!
I propose that Einstein’s famous formula E=MC² suggests that matter is in fact no more than energy in a frozen state and energy is no more than thought in a frozen state. If the God state is infinite in extent then it is a state of timelessness without beginning or end. All finite states must therefore have their beginning in this infinite state. If the fabric of that infinite state is thought then all finite states are therefore fashioned from thought. With this in mind let’s take another look at how the image on the Shroud might have been formed.
Dr Petrus Soons has identified remarkable qualities about the Shroud. The image of the man, not the image of plants also recorded on the cloth or the blood stains, has holographic and three dimensional qualities. In addition the highlights and shadows on the image suggest that the light source for the image seems to come from no particular direction. The light emerges from within all of the body evenly everywhere at the same time.
Distinguished particle physicist, Dame Isabel Piczek, has identified the remarkable fact that there seems to be no distortion in the image on the cloth, a distortion that should have resulted from the pressure of the body on the stone floor of the tomb and the inevitable irregularities that would have occurred due to the folds and wrinkles of the wrapping:
“There is a strange dividing element, an interface from which the image is projected up and the image is projected down. The muscles of the body are absolutely not crushed against the stone of the tomb. They are perfect. It means that the body is hovering between the two sides of the shroud.” This means that there is absolutely no gravity. The image is absolutely undistorted. Now if you imagine that the cloth was wrinkled, tied, wrapped around the body and all of a sudden you see a perfect image, which is impossible unless the shroud was made absolutely taut, rigidly taut. A heretofore unknown interface acted as an event horizon. The straight, taut linen of the shroud simply was forced to parallel the shape of this powerful interface.”
This, “heretofore unknown interface” she says, would have been the result of a “collapsed event horizon,” in the centre of which, “there is something which science knows as a singularity. This is exactly what started the universe in the Big Bang.” Thus, she goes on to say: “We have nothing less in the tomb of Christ than the beginning of a new universe.”
It is my belief that the “living water” of which Christ spoke is a purifier of biological lines that can free them of any alien genetic modification held in their genetic lines. Just as in homeopathy the dilute substance informs water of its specific molecular pattern, “living water” could “inform” the other water molecules in the body about the natural structure of body water and general chemistry in human beings prior to the points of past alien interception.
I believe that the ‘tree of life’ referred to in the Book of Revelation might well describe a biological dynasty that Jesus may have left for the future of our species:
The “tree of life” that “yields her fruit every month”and bears “twelve manner of fruits” each year, could be a woman’s reproductive system, and its “fruits” could be the eggs she produces each month! The “leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.” In other words, the biological lines of humanity that are broken up by alien-altered DNA would be healed and restored by the “living water” that nourishes the tree.
A “holy city” is described that has “twelve foundations” and “in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.” Could these “twelve foundations” be the lines left by Jesus through his twelve apostles, each of whom perhaps represented a specific type of human biology? The “holy city” has “no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” Thus it appears to be a “living city,” a structure built of light, of biological lines, perhaps, with “no need of the sun, neither the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it”
It is possible that a direct biological line bearing Christ’s specific format, derived from actual progeny he left behind, now lies hidden within the lines of humanity. I would expect that such beings would naturally remain obscure. Anyone who claims to be of these lines is thus likely to be a fraud or phony, if they advertise this fact to be so.
I believe that Christ, with his ultimate intelligence, would have had to leave something behind that would last into the future. He would have foreseen that over the centuries the record of his words and deeds would be mangled and twisted. Thus he might have left a biological legacy as the most powerful means of ensuring the continuance of his message for the redemption of humanity.
Q. Does all of this have something to do with the eugenics programs of Hitler’s and his elite sponsors?
There are historical accounts to suggest that Hitler may have met one of these hybrids. The following are his words to Hermann Rauschning the Nazi governor of Danzig:
“The new man is living amongst us now! He is here! I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him.”
It seems that Hitler believed that he had seen a member of an “Aryan” super race, which he believed to originate from the inner Earth, a “Nordic” alien inspiring his blonde blue-eyed ideal. In referring to the “inner Earth,” could he have been describing the underground and underwater locations where UFO sightings have indicated the possibility that alien craft are laying in wait, ready perhaps to emerge when the time is right?
Hitler had intimate links with the Thule society. Thule Society members were allegedly the first group to attempt the back-engineering of an extraterrestrial spacecraft. In his biography of one of the Thule society’s founding members, Dr Wilhelm Dahm wrote: "The Thule Gesellschaft name originated from mythical Thule, a Nordic equivalent of the vanished culture of Atlantis. A race of giant supermen lived in Thule, linked into the Cosmos through magical powers. They had psychic and technological energies far exceeding the technical achievements of the 20th century. This knowledge was to be put to use to save the Fatherland and create a new race of Nordic Aryan Atlanteans. A new Messiah would come forward to lead the people to this goal."
This again points to the Nordic hybrids to which I referred earlier.
Q. DNA database are being built up and DNA records are being collected. Is someone trying to “map” the DNA of the human race? If so, are the humans or the greys behind this?
I believe that this is one of the strongest imperatives carried out by the Greys and their cartel of Hybrids and hybrid sponsored sympathisers all over the world particularly in the Northern hemisphere. The instigators will be the roboids because they need to identify DNA usefulness against its opposite. They are machines and work to exact principles. I would have thought that they would like to know the exact lie of the land of where DNA is concerned. And that would have to include everybody on the Earth.
I feel it is a distinct possibility that abductees are chosen because in some way their biology is resistant to Grey manipulation amongst the Euro Caucasian pale skinned people who are their main caucus for abduction and I believe final harvest.
It is a chilling conclusion I have come to and people have to be warned about this contingency. I hope I am wrong about all this. If I am wrong then I might have done no harm in warning everyone it might be a possibility in the future. But what if I am right!!! it is possible that the cartels of human beings who are working for the Grey sponsored Hybrids are doing it because they have been offered some great reward and they don’t in fact know that the hands that are driving all this have four fingers. In other words they are being conned, as scientists fool lab animals to do what they want in their experiments. Now of course I know I will be accused of being utterly paranoid about all this. But my case is that if this is remotely true, you cannot be paranoid enough. It’s our little ones, our future generations that will bear the brunt of all this.
I have put down detailed evidence in my book for this. It will take too long to go into all of that here. But I’ll just mention this one thing. You will remember the points I made about the pigment Melanin and its resistance to ultra violet light being used as a splicing agent for genetic intervention. I also mentioned that I believe the white Caucasian population to be a special focus of Grey alien interception.
Well, as part of an extensive gene-mapping program, researchers at deCode Genetics in Reykjavik, Iceland, have discovered a strange inversion in which the genetic code was back to front, that turned up in about 20 percent of Europeans, yet was rare in Africans and almost absent in Asians. They dated the origin of the inversion to about three million years ago, well before modern humans evolved.
They were baffled by the fact that this inversion, almost a million DNA letters long, did not spread to the entire human population. They also found that women with the inversion had on average more children than women who did not. A genetic variant that affects fertility they found really startling, and it raised for them lots of questions—like: why doesn’t everybody have this?”
If there have been three million years for such an advantageous trait to spread, it is even more astonishing that it has not done so. They concluded that it had to be a relatively recent variant. This recent arrival of the inversion would explain why it has not spread to everyone. It would also explain why copies of the inversion in different individuals are remarkably similar. The interbreeding events would have been rare and would have brought only one or two variants into the population. I wonder if this research team may have unwittingly discovered the genetic strain that was carefully cultured about fifty thousand years ago by alien genetic interception of our species? Could one in five Europeans carry that strain today?
Q. Are the greys in search of immortality? (So are some humans with the aid of material technology, DNA research and gerontology studies)
I believe they are in search of physical immortality but physical immortality is IMPOSSIBLE in a physical universe subject to the second law of thermodynamics. So they are basically on to a loser right from the start.
As purely physical creations they can never have any concept of the only immortality that is actually possible and that is immortality that exists beyond the physical Universe and the second law. With their technology they can detect that something about human beings seems to survive physical death and return. They detect the fingerprint provided in bio-physical terms of an individual soul expression that returns into a new body after the death of the old one. This is their conundrum. They can detect it but they just can’t get a hold of it as it is a non-physical quantum.
Thus they seek to somehow write their programmes into us so that we can carry them on indefinitely life time after life time. However these programmes can only be written into flesh, they cannot write on the soul itself. Hence their fascination with procedures of reproduction and birth, they are manipulating the genetic prospectus of the biological lines of humanity that souls are born into. The more they do this the more they will block the body aerials of the individuals who incarnate into these lines from reception of that eternal component they are looking for. So ironically they will never reach their goal.
Q. Tell us about the spiritual laws of reincarnation and karma. Do the greys want to break out of the material world and “follow” humanity into the world of the spirit?
How is it possible that something like a rock, just doing nothing, is inherently capable of lasting longer in tenure than you and I, whose capacity to know and understand and do is so superior to that to a rock? There has to be a way that we can continue on to fulfill our grander capacity for choice and range of choice. Reincarnation is the most logical and pertinent of procedures to effect this continuity. Following a line of continuous connection to the Godverse.
This conviction is in line with the tenet of reincarnation once acknowledged by all the world’s major religions. In the Gnostic text the Pistis Sophia there is an account of Jesus describing to his apostles “the transferences into various bodies of the world.”
During the early Christian era leading up to the Council of Constantinople, notable church fathers like Origen, Clement of Alexander, and St. Jerome also accepted and believed in the reincarnation principle. But in the fourth century, when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, Emperor Constantine deleted early references to reincarnation in the New Testament. For Constantine, reincarnation also represented too much influence from Eastern thought.
While the tenet of reincarnation was taken out of the main Christian codex, it still had its believers and adherents, like the Gnostics. Then the Second Council of Constantinople officially declared the doctrine of reincarnation a heresy and banished it. It has been suggested that the eradication of the ethic of reincarnation from the Christian codex was the responsibility of the wife of Justinian I, the Empress Theodora, who was enraged by a soothsayer when he claimed she had been a witch in a previous existence. In any case, it appears that the Church was afraid that the idea of “past lives” would weaken and undermine its growing power and influence by affording followers too much time to seek salvation.
I believe the principle of Karma was referred to explicitly by Jesus when he said: Agree with your adversary quickly, whiles you are in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Karma is nothing more and nothing less than the simple law of cause and effect. If we all come from a state of wholeness, the Godverse in which there is no separation then we are all implicitly connected. Karma happens when we do something to take someone else away from that state of connection and thus restrict their potential to return to the Godverse and the natural law of cause and effect demands that this has to be compensated for. There is no divine judgement you in fact are your own divine judge and ironically I believe that that is one thing that many people will not want to hear. They are cultured in mummies and daddies from birth and they will need a super mummy and daddy to be there all through their lives to bring hope and xconsolation and all the other things we constantly sek of a God. Well that God is still there powerful as ever we might want to see it anthropomorphically. No harm in that if it helps to console you.
Q. What do you think of the research of David Jacobs?) And his thesis about the ongoing Hybrid program?
David Jacobs and Budd Hopkins are I believe two of the bravest men I know of. I have not met them but I have seen and heard extensive interviews given by them and they have impressed me as men of scholarship and good and noble intentions. I believe in the future their research will be considered to be of historical importance to mankind.
These two men, and the late great Professor John Mack, have done more than anyone to bring the alien phenomenon the serious attention it deserves. They will be ridiculed and dismissed as charlatans and frauds by the powerful cartel out there whose business it is to see that the human species remains ignorant about the greatest threat ever to their existentiality.
They have reported significant changes over the last fifteen to twenty years in the content of abduction accounts. Jacobs says that: “All of these accounts, to put it bluntly, point to a future in which human-looking hybrids will be here amongst us. The evidence is now so strong I can no longer look at alternative motivations for them.” He and Budd Hopkins say that as yet they do not know the reasons for the hybridisation program. That is perhaps where I can help with some insights into those why questions.
Only predatory aliens have something to hide. If the greys had kindly goodly motives for being here they would have declared this and provided the world with unmistakable proof of it all. Those who say that they will do this in their own time in their own way are fooling themselves or being fooled into thinking this.
